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I Hate Coordinate Systems

I hate coordinate systems! How do I wrap my head around these things?

Apply this three-part mental model of geospatial datasets. Many common problems
happen when one of these parts is missing or out of sync.

Attributes: the meanings or labels of a data

Coordinates: numbers describing the data
point’s position in space.

Coordinate (reference) system: metadata
describing the space itself: origin, axes, units, etc.

For example:

Attributes: “The White House” or “1600
Pennsylvania Avenue”

Coordinates: (-77.0367, 38.8976)

Coordinate (reference) system: WGS84

I hate coordinate systems! My dataset is off the coast of Africa!

Your dataset probably has some junk coordinates.

Many data formats store “null” as zeroes. If your software is assuming a longitude/latitude geographic
coordinate system (GCS), then the point with coordinates (0, 0) is where the equator crosses the prime meridian off the
coast of Africa (humorously known as Null Island). This can sometimes happen when importing from Excel and empty rows
are not trimmed off.

Solution: Remove the data points from your dataset whose coordinates are null.

I hate coordinate systems! My dataset looks like it’s bigger than
the Earth!

Your dataset probably has its coordinate system wrongly defined as a
longitude/latitude geographic coordinate system (GCS).

This can happen if the coordinate system is missing altogether, in which case GIS software often assumes
a GCS without telling you. A GCS only ranges from -180° west to +180° east in the X-axis and
-90° south to +90 north in the Y-axis. If the coordinates in your dataset are
out of this range then your dataset will look like it’s off of the Earth.

Solution: Redefine the coordinate system, i.e. change
the coordinate system but not the coordinates,
from the GCS to the correct coordinate system.

I hate coordinate systems! What coordinate system should my dataset be in?

Look at the two things you do know: the attributes and the coordinates.

A data point’s attributes gives context to where on the Earth it is located.
Most GIS software will display the minimum and maximum coordinates in the
layer’s properties as “extent” or “bounding box”. From these, do some detective work on the coordinate system which you should use when redefining
your dataset.


  • If the attributes indicate the approximate longitude,latitude where the
    coordinates should be located, try doing a
    reverse lookup. This iterates over every well-defined coordinate system,
    unprojects the X,Y coordinates to WGS84, and measures the error to the
    known longitude,latitude. Errors less than a few hundred meters denote a reasonable projection,
    though this isn’t precise enough to determine the GCS. You can run
    this sample
    yourself, or use this form:
  • If the coordinates have X-values between -180 and 180, and Y-values
    between -90 and 90, then you probably want to redefine to a
    longitude,latitude geographic coordinate system (GCS) like WGS84.
  • If the coordinates have large absolute values, try redefining to a local coordinate system like
    UTM, Gauss-Krüger, State Plane, or a national grid. Also consider trying neighboring zones, e.g. if
    UTM Zone 19N is wrong, try UTM Zone 18N.
  • If the attributes suggest the dataset is in the USA, then there might a
    problem converting to/from Freedom Units . Try multiplying/dividing a data point’s coordinates by 3.28084 to convert feet to meters/meters to feet and see if
    that places it in the proper location.
  • If the minimum X/Y coordinates are both zero and the maxmimum X/Y coordinates are both positive, then the dataset may have been exported from
    non-geospatial software like Photoshop or Illustrator or Inkscape. This is especially likely if the
    dataset is flipped vertically since those editors typically have the Y-axis increasing going down.
    You will need to manually georeference the dataset to use it, which changes both the coordinates and the coordinate system.
  • I hate coordinate systems! My dataset is slightly offset from where it
    should be!

    Your dataset probably has the wrong longitude/latitude geographic coordinate system (GCS). Different GCSs define slightly different
    sizes/shapes of the Earth (their ellipsoids) and different positionings on the Earth (their
    datums). As a result, the same longitude/latitude coordinates in two
    different GCSs can appear offset, although typically within tens of meters of each other. This can
    happen even if you are using a projected coordinate system (PCS) whose units are not degrees of
    longitude/latitude since PCSs have a GCS embedded within them.

    Solution: Redefine the coordinate
    , i.e. change the coordinate system but not the coordinates, to one of the following

    • Try redefining to the WGS84 GCS.
    • If your dataset was collected with GPS , try redefining
      to WGS84.
    • If your dataset was collected with GLONASS , try
      redefining to PZ-90.
    • If your dataset was collected with Galileo , try
      redefining to ITRF.
    • If your dataset is in the USA , try redefining to NAD27,
      NAD83, or WGS84.
    • If your dataset is in Europe , try redefining to ED50,
      ETRS89, or WGS84.
    • If your dataset is in Australia , try redefining to GDA94
      or GDA2020.
    • If your dataset is in China and/or collected with
      BeiDou, good

    I hate coordinate systems! How do I redefine a dataset’s coordinate system?

    It depends on your software.

    Remember, redefining means the metadata about the coordinate system is
    modified but the
    coordinates are not. This contrasts with reprojections and transformations,
    which modify both the coordinate system and the coordinates.


    I hate coordinate systems! My measurements are bigger or smaller than they
    should be!

    Your dataset is probably in a non-equidistant coordinate system.
    Most GIS software stupidly calculates distances, areas, and volumes using Euclidean math in
    the dataset’s or data frame’s coordinate system, regardless of whether it is
    equidistant. Depending on the amount of distortion associated with the projection, this can lead to
    (wildly) incorrect measurements without you realizing. In the common case of the Mercator projection,
    distances are enlarged by about 1/cos(latitude).


    • Reproject your dataset (changing both the coordinates and coordinate system) to an appropriate “local” coordinate
      . A local coordinate system is tuned to offer very accurate Euclidean measurements
      for a constrained region of the Earth. Examples include UTM, Gauss-Krüger, State Plane, and
      equidistant national grids like the Equidistant Conic.
    • Perform geodesic measurements. This unprojects the coordinates to
      longitude/latitude (if projected) and then calculates precise distance along the GCS’s ellipsoid.
      But beware: each calculation is slower than the Euclidean version, and the improvement in accuracy
      is marginal versus a local coordinate (the previous solution) unless you
      require sub-centimeter accuracy. This is done by default in QGIS, can be enabled in ArcGIS Pro and ArcMap, and can be performed programmatically with open-source libraries
      like GeographicLib.

    I hate coordinate systems! Why is Mercator ever used if it’s so distorted?

    Mercator is the only conformal cylindrical map
    Cylindrical map projections mean the whole Earth fits into a rectangle,
    which is very convenient for data processing algorithms that are used to working with rectangular
    images. Conformal means that angles and shapes are always preserved: north is always up, squares are
    always square, etc. Using a non-conformal projection would make things look stretched, squashed, and/or
    rotated when zooming in.

    Mercator (cylindrical) Lambert Cylindrical Albers Conic
    ✅ Shape ❌ Shape ✅ Shape
    ✅ Rotation ✅ Rotation ❌ Rotation
    ❌ Area ✅ Area ✅ Area

    Mercator does enlarge areas farther from the equator, but at least this
    distortion is the same horizontally and vertically. And it’s trivial to calculate a scale
    to correct measurements. The only time the distortion is problematic is when viewing a
    global-scale map with a range of different scale factors, but most maps are not global-scale and there
    are plenty of better projections to use for this case.

    I hate coordinate systems! Why don’t we always use longitude/latitude?

    Good question. There are a bunch of reasons we use planar projected coordinate systems rather than just sticking with latitude,longitude geographic
    coordinate systems all the time:

    • Planar measurements are ubiquitous. Common GIS features like
      property boundaries, road centerlines, forests, lakes, etc. are all reckoned in
      Euclidean distances, areas, and volumes – not in terms of angles.
    • Planar measurements are easier to calculate. Measuring distances on a
      plane with the Pythagorean theorem is easier than along a sphere with the Haversine formula and
      way easier than along an ellipsoid with the Vincenty’s
      , to say nothing of areas or volumes.
    • Longitude was hard to figure out before GNSS. Reliable means of
      determining longitude are only a couple hundred years old, and GPS only a couple decades old. There
      is a lot of inertia in surveying and geodesy using Cartesian distances from fixed monuments.

    I hate coordinate systems! My X- and Y-values are OK, but my
    Z-values (heights, elevations) are off!

    Your dataset is probably measuring height above the ellipsoid instead of above sea level (geoid), or

    Sea level follows the geoid, a surface which is lumpy because of minute regional variations in gravity.
    GNSS like GPS do not measure the height above the geoid but rather the idealized mathematical
    representation called the ellipsoid. Some GPS devices automatically convert ellipsoidal height to height
    above sea level (aka orthometric height aka geoidal height), but many do not.

    Solution: Use cs2cs in PROJ, or alternatively an older tool like VDatum, to convert between ellipsoidal and
    orthometric (above sea level) heights. For a reasonably small dataset, a constant offset can be applied
    to all Z-coordinates.

    I hate coordinate systems! What do all these terms mean?

    Here’s a glossary:

    • Attributes:
      the meanings or labels of a data point
    • Coordinate (reference) system (CRS):
      metadata describing the space in which coordinates exist, e.g. origin, axes, units, etc.
    • Coordinates:
      numbers describing a data point’s position within a CRS.
    • Datum:
      a precise reference frame calculated from a collection of known reference points; one part of a GCS.
    • Ellipsoid:
      a mathematical approximation of the size and shape of the earth; one part of a GCS.
    • Extent:
      the minimum and maximum values of the coordinates.
    • Geographic coordinate system (GCS):
      a coordinate system with angular longitude,latitude units in degrees;
      composed of a datum and an ellipsoid.
    • Geoid:
      an imaginary surface similar to sea level if landmasses were “cut away”; unlike the smooth
      ellipsoid, the geoid is lumpy due to regional variations in gravity.
    • GNSS:
      global navigation satellite system for precisely global positioning; the most common are GPS , GLONASS ,
      BeiDou , and Galileo .
    • Project:
      the act of converting coordinates from a ellipsoidal longitude,latitude
      GCS to a planar x,y PCS using a projection.
    • Projected coordinate system (PCS):
      a planar coordinate system with Euclidean x,y units (not angles);
      composed of a GCS and a projection.
    • Projection:
      an algorithm for converting angular longitude,latitude coordinates in a
      GCS to a plane (a PCS) on/near the Earth’s
      surface, e.g. Mercator, Equidistant Conic, Stereographic, Dymaxion. Different zones (e.g. UTM) are
      the same fundamental projection with different parameters.
    • Redefine projection:
      the act of changing the coordinate system without changing the coordinates.
    • Reproject:
      the act of changing the coordinate system and
      changing the coordinates. Typically done by unprojecting from the PCS to
      the old GCS, transforming to new GCS (if different), and projecting to the new PCS.
    • Transform:
      the act of changing between two GCSs. There are often multiple
      transformation algorithms for a given pair of GCSs; the best choice
      depends on the location of your data within the GCS.
    • Unproject:
      the act of converting coordinates from a planar x,y PCS to an ellipsoidal longitude,latitude GCS;
      the inverse of project.

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